Photos of the pro-government anti-Zelaya rallies
Yesterday's pro-government rally in the capital cityof Tegucigalpa, Honduras, July 1, 2009,
but wait, there's more....
Wide angle helicopter view of yesterday's pro-government anti-Zelaya rally in Tegucigalpa, Honduras. All the protesters would not fit into the photo.
Another angle of the rally in Tegucigalpa, July 1.The people of Tegucigalpa were joyful thinking that they had finally gotten their message out to the world. It was only later that they found that CNN only showed a small video with the volume lowered so that their speeches and songs were not heard.
Yesterday's pro-government anti-Zelaya rally in La Ceiba,the third largest city in Honduras.
The message that the young people of La Ceiba had for CNN, who didn't come, was to ask the world to find out the facts before they judge Honduras. "We aren't in favor of any political party; what we want and we demand is peace in our country and unity among Hondurans," said Luís Hernández. Roque Ardón said that the the people should defend the country against interference by the Organization of American States and the UN who have already judged us without listening to us first.
The parade in La Ceiba was blocks long and completely peaceful. It was protected by numerous police who were able to reroute it without incident after pro-Zelaya protesters became threatening.
in Honduras, July 2, 2009
Pro-government rally in San Pedro Sula, Honduras, July 2, 2009
Puerto Cortés, Honduras, pro-government rally yesterday, July 1, 2009Mayor Allan Ramos said, "Today, Honduras has lived historic moments. Every Honduran is called to defend our country in a civic and conscientious manner, like we did with this march." "We are making a call to the international community to see that Honduras is firm and united in defense of the Constitution," he said.
Pro-government supporters, Choluteca, Honduras, July 1, 2009Quintín Soriano, Mayor of Choluteca, said he had never seen so many people marching in Choluteca before. "The world better not confuse us with Cuba or Venezuela because here what we want is peace and democracy. It isn't the government of Roberto Micheletti or the liberal party; it is the pueblo that demands this tranquility.
Pro-government supporters, Choluteca, Honduras, July 1, 2009 
Vigil in front of UN headquarters, June 30, 2009The theme of these rallies is Peace and Democracy, but since CNN would not show you their other messages, I will.
"Jail for Mel"
Armed Forces, Thank you!I know this is hard to believe for the people who have read the misinformation on the internet. The military are protecting people from the riotous pro-Zelaya protesters (some of whom have been imported from Nicaragua and El Salvador) who have injured people, attacked journalists, started fires, blocked bridges, done a lot of property damage with vandalism, and continue to attack the soldiers with rocks while the soldiers have shown incredible restraint. The La Ceiba police chief said that crime (which is a major concern of the Honduran people that was never addressed properly by Mel Zelaya) in the past 5 days has been a fraction of what it has been in the past.
Paz (Peace)
"For our children, we're fighting for democracy" "Hear our side of the story"
"Out with Zelaya, Hurray for Peace"
"CNN - Chavéz News Network"
"Honduras demands respect from the international community."Please help to get the truth out. Honduras is a victim, not of our military, but of an organized Venezuelan disinformation campaign.
Viva Honduras!
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"The La Ceiba police chief said that crime (which is a major concern of the Honduran people that was never addressed properly by Mel Zelaya) in the past 5 days has been a fraction of what it has been in the past."
So why is a curfew and the abrogation of civil liberties necessary?
Great pics....VIVA HONDURAS!!!!
You go La Gringa...here is to expats in Honduras trying to get the truth out to the world! By the way, I added your blog to my blogroll, please add me to yours!
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I have been reading your blog for a while now, i have learned so much from u and your fellow bloggers. Thank you all so much..i do belive it is weird that CNN does not want to show the whole story, any other time they would dodge bullets just to get the story.. My in-laws in Honduras tell us that they are now rounding up males 15-30 to join the military
Thanks for everything you're doing. Keep up the good work, La Gringa.
Tom
Wow La Gringa! You are just amazing!!! Thank you so much for all of your efforts for the people of Honduras! I think little by little the word is getting out. I hope it results in action that will help Honduras.
THANK YOU!!!
I hope they are rumors too, my in-laws are in Tegucigalpa,
CNN - "Chavéz News Network" Ohh I bet CNN gonna love that one! lmol I know I do! mabe if the word spreads mabe they will start showing HONDURAS more!!!
Rachel:
"My in-laws in Honduras tell us that they are now rounding up males 15-30 to join the military"
That rumour has been spreading round the country for the past two days. The bottled-water delivery boy even told me it this morning. No-one can verify it and to be honest, I wouldn't think any professional Honduran soldier would like an untrained 15 year-old youth with a rifle standing next to him.
Rumours spread round this country like wild-fire (excuse the pun) - trying to disprove them is a lot of hard work sometimes.
Thanks, LaGringa
There is no forced recruitment.
Un golpe de Estado (calco del francés coup d'État) es la toma del poder político de un modo repentino y violento, por parte de un grupo de poder, vulnerando la legitimidad institucional establecida en un Estado, es decir, las normas legales de sucesión en el poder vigentes con anterioridad.
Se distingue de los conceptos de revuelta, motín, rebelión, "putch", revolución o guerra civil. Usualmente estos términos se utilizan con poca propiedad o con intenciones propagandísticas, y en el transcurso de los hechos y procesos históricos se suelen combinar entre sí.
Atendiendo a la identidad de sus autores, usualmente presenta dos formas: el golpe de palacio o golpe institucional, cuando la toma del poder es ejecutada por elementos internos del propio gobierno, incluso de la misma cúspide gubernamental; el golpe militar o pronunciamiento militar, cuando la toma del poder es realizada por miembros de las fuerzas armadas. Más recientemente se ha usado el término golpe de mercado para referirse a los cambios institucionales producidos por presiones de grupos económicos, utilizando mecanismos de desestabilización y caos en la economía.[1]
Concepto. «E1 golpe de Estado es un acto de autoridad consistente en un atentado -o ataque- meditado, ilegal y brusco a las normas de organización, de funcionamiento o de competencia de las autoridades constituidas; atentado -o ataque- dirigido, según un plan preconcebido y por motivos diversos, por un hombre o grupo de hombres asociados con el fin de: o apoderarse del poder, o de defender o reforzar su posición en el mismo (o sea, en el gobierno), o de producir una modificación en la orientación política del país» (O. Brichet, o. c. en bibl. 7).
Golpe de Estado, violación y vulneración de la legalidad institucional vigente en un Estado por parte de un grupo de personas que pretenden, mediante la fuerza, sustituir o derrocar el régimen existente, sustituyéndole por otro propicio y generalmente configurado por las propias fuerzas golpistas. Este ataque contra la soberanía implica que la mayoría de los golpes de Estado supongan la retención de los organismos depositarios de aquélla (cámaras parlamentarias, gobierno) o de sus miembros. Los participantes suelen tener control sobre elementos estratégicos de las fuerzas armadas y de la policía y, para asegurar el triunfo de su acción, intentan hacerse con el de los medios de comunicación.
Durante muchos años el golpe de Estado ha sido un instrumento habitual para el derrocamiento de gobiernos en el Tercer Mundo. La pobreza, la insuficiente madurez política, económica y social, y una larga tradición de liderazgo militar, han hecho que muchos países sean especialmente propensos a derrocar a los gobiernos de este modo. Ahora esta pauta parece prevalecer en algunas de las naciones de África.
("Golpe de Estado" Enciclopedia Microsoft® Encarta® en línea 2002 http://encarta.msn.es © 1997-2002 Microsoft Corporation. Reservados todos los derechos.)
I can't post@!#*&$
I hope the military hasn't cut off your Internet! ;)
Evo Plastic Ono said...
I hope the military hasn't cut off your Internet! ;)
I wish somebody would cut off yours - Jeesh!
LG,
I have finally received a real good article from a bunch of Scholars in Honduras whom I know. I try to cut and paste and send it to your blog but failed. Any suggestions? It is written in Spanish but I used google to translate and I understood the article. It is written with thoughts, quotes from the Honduras Congress and Articles, laws with facts and explanation, not just shooting from the mouth like some of the bloggers trying to cause high blood pressure for the readers who are concern with the HOndurans. Thanks.
Oh, sure, I write a 6 paragraph post and it gets eaten....twice. I write a test post and it posts.
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Evo, I'm not here to debate the constitution with you. Look in the Honduran newspapers for their explanation. Also, I've read a couple of attorneys who have actually READ our constitution analyzed it and decided that they did do the correct thing. It was the only thing they could do as there is no impeachment clause. That needs to change. Interesting, apparently there used to be and it was taken out in 2003, the last administration. I wonder what the story behind that is. Some sort of corruption, I'm sure.
If you'll take a minute to think about it, we are in a little bit of a stressful situation right now. There is no telling what will happen if Zelaya does come back on Saturday. Depending upon what the big bullies decide to do, we may not have groceries or gas next week. Already poor people may lose their jobs. Hospitals may close. Honduras doesn't grow much of its own food.
But for whatever reason, some of you sound like you think the 'right' thing to do is to force an evil, thieving, bullying, corrupto criminal back on 7.5 million who don't want him just to prove a point. I'll probably be persona non grata if he comes back, that's for sure, so you won't have me to pick on anymore.
Here's something you can look up for me. It seems to me that people coming into another country to commit civil unrest and encourage others to do so would be a pretty big crime. What do you think?
I forgot the main point, don't any of you want to comment on how repressed the Honduran people look in the photos?
Gotta go. I'm off to write the President. Obama, that is.
Mr/Ms nice Anonymous, can you email it to me? I won't disclose your email address or spam you.
BTW, Apparently Blogger is having big problems with these #*%^ comments, so if you are going to write a long one, I suggest that you type in a text program or email first just in case Blogger loses it. That's very frustrating.
LG at 11:31:
Extremely well put and we're right behind you - maybe even literally if the big bully comes back!
Get some sleep, please!!!
My girlfriend was at the rally in La Ceiba on July 1. She was emotional and said she was so proud of her country for standing up against a tyrant. Elected or not, he was still commiting illegal acts.
The only news source that says young people are being recruited in the rural areas of Honduras is Telesur.tv, a shamelessly Chavista Venezuelan news chain. Can someone in Honduras confirm or deny this story?
You Rock!!! Thanks for all the hard work you do. I have neither the patience nor the talent. I have tried to recruit more readers to the Blogicito so that they can find out what is really happening,
Those of us with various Honduran ties are grateful for your truthful reporting. The pictures are worth a thousand words!! Thanks so much!!
Wow, spectacular pictures. It's incredible how different these rallies are than the pro-Zelaya protests. If you go to Univision.com they have pics of both, pro, and anti Zelaya demonstrators. Pro-Zelaya: Burning tires, chaos in streets, vandals wearing masks, stones, sticks and a lot of blood. Anti-Zelaya: A lot of Honduran flags, dressed in white, peaceful and TONS more people.Keep it up Gringa!!! -A Honduran in DC
Today's Huffington Post (huffingtonpost.com) has a lead article about Senator DeMint of South Carolina neing in support of the removal of Zelaya - a good read as well as the statement on the Senators own web site.
Thanks for posting all this info!
Mr. Obama and Mr. Chavez were quick to condemn this so-called "coup", but wait ...., a democratically elected head of state, charged with protecting and upholding the constitution, is convicted by the legislature for violating that constitution, condemned by his own political party, ordered out by the supreme court, and forcibly removed from office by the military. Where were they when the exact same thing happened in Illinois a few months ago? Does the name Blagojevich ring any bells?
Hang in there Honduras! Paz!
Yesterday the diocese of Santa Rosa de Copán released a statement on the coup. An unofficial translation can be found at http://www.hermanojuancito.blogspot.com/2009/07/message-of-diocese-of-santa-rosa-de.html
Please look at what religious leaders are saying: http://www.caritas.hn (in Spanish)
LG,
I am the anonymous who wanted to send you the article and it's GONE !!!! The entire site just VANISHED !! It contains the laws , quotes of sections of the articles and everything with detail explanations ! It is not the best approach to handle Mel but it is also not illegal according to the consitution of Honduras.
The following is what I would like to post for the Honduras people. I feel we are all fighting for the same thing. We are fighting for the benefit of the Honduras people but in our different opinions. Lets not get carried away with senseless attack on each other who are just frustrated with the situation. We can debate how things should be done but givien the urgency of the situation, can any of us guarantee a method that would be effective ? Politics is a slippery business. Lets convert our energy to a positive one for the Honduras people. Lets hope no blood is flowing on the street because Chavez is claiming there will be blood. Worry about his crazy ideas because UN, EU, OAS are only good at discussing and condemning after the fact. The mess in Zimbabwe, Iraq, Palestine , North Korea are good examples of their effort of talks while millions are dying daily. This is what I have to say to Mel:
Your dream of becoming Chavez # 2 in Central America has failed. Please have mercy on the Honduran people. Take whatever money you have "golpe" from your country and leave peacefully like a respectable actor, know when it is time to exit. You have forced your country to take this action against you because you have forced it on them to do so. Having months of dalogues with all parties telling you not to go ahead with your 4th ballots you went ahead and worse of all, calling for help from Chavez panic the entire population ! with 4 Venezuelan planes in Toncantin and farmers calling reporting troops from Nicaragua and Venezuela entering Honduras how do you react to these to be handles democratically ? Now you cry to the world about being removed while in your pyjamas ? You could have wear you suit and your Stetson hat but you wanted to wear a crown with tiara instead with the blood money you stole from the very people you vow to protect and serve as their President. Have soem respect for yourself. Go to Venezuela where you are wanted.I am sure Chavez will take good care of you. Honduras does not trust you anymore as their President. Be man enough to face the consequences of your own greediness and action.
Hello !
wanna point to a CNN Ireport from Nathan Lents, seems like a fair explanation of the issue:
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-289864
He says: "The Honduran constitution is very clear and declares itself unchangeable on several issues, one of them being the limit of one term by any president." I have the constitution, is there someone that knows where that is declared? (66 pages, spaninsh..)
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LA, somewhere you wrote that you fear to be expelled of the country if Z comes back. But aren't you afraid of actions from your political opponents? You are quite profiling yourself here.
Is it safe to travel to Honduras as a white guy? How is the business-climate?
I am afraid things will go worse, seeing this:
(look what happens in the 2:00 minute; what is this moron doing there?)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/07/01/penhaul.honduras.cnn?iref=videosearch
I hope everybody can keep their heads cool for tomorrows situation!! ... but I know Hondurans are very peaceful people, still confident!
and now my really important question:
IS THE ZONA-VIDA CLOSED ????
Steven, Holland
(LA, I still don't get it with that URL, but I am on your mailing list, so not completely anon)
PS: I have to post twice, the first time the site says: "Your request could not be processed. Please try again." click again and it works.
Just look at the kind of stuff the Chávez News Network is putting out! Shame. Shame. Have they no respect for the brave soldiers of the Honduran military?
http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world/2009/07/03/honduras.tires.shot.cnn
Clear explanation of Constitutional issue in Christian Science Monitor today by Octavio Sanchez, fmr. presidential adviser and minister of culture.
I Saw What they Did I Know What they Want
My hightest congrats to you LG - you are a true liberty and democracy lover. What zelaia was unsuspiciously doing (still for some) was what EVERY leftist/marxist is programed for - slowly making room and spreading his tentacles for a future move to implement the socialism by ways of exactly what they now cry the world - a coup...
La Gringa -
Thank you for keeping me (an American informed). Unfortunately, our "news" networks in the US are focused soley on Michael Jackson for about nine days now. I'm not kidding. I only heard one bit about a week about Obama's stance on Honduras. No opposing opinions or anything.
No, we Americans are left in the dark about Honduras and most parts of the world. But CNN is doing hard-hitting news stories like this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KpcJPYJKo4#
Does anyone know how to contact Univision or CNN other than e-mail? I have friends and family in Honduras that would like to refute much of what they have been reporting.
Thank you so much for getting the word out. I'm from the Bay Islands in Honduras, and it is just stunning how much partial reporting is going around. CNN especially. And NO reports of the thousands that come out for the constitution outside Honduras! We must get to truth out for the world to see the other side. Me and my Honduran friends in the US have been busy calling our representatives and the media. We are like David Against Goliath here (http://theredconnection.blogspot.com/2009/07/little-david-honduras-stands-firm.html). Thank you!
A previous commenter wanted to know how to make contact with CNN For those who want to report to the News:
-CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/feedback/
-Reuters: editor.reuters@reuters.com
-Associated Press, feedback@ap.org; (212) 621-1500
Obama, Whitehouse:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
Obama & Clinton are both socialists, so one would expect them to support Zelaya. They are as corrupt as he is!!
I still don't understand the OEA??!!Who are they for, DEMOCRACY or COMMUNISM??
This is going to sound like I am some type of shill, but I swear I am real. I am an average American (middle class, middle-aged, living in VA -- however, economic times being what they are I do not have cable TV). Up until last week, I was completely ignorant of the politics of Hondoras.
I have been trying to follow what has happened. Zelaya (and the rest of the world), has said there was an illegal coup, and his removal was an illegal seizure of power.
The political organs that removed him from office have cited Constitutional violations committed by Zelaya, among them Article 239 ("No citizen who has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President. Whoever violates this law _or proposes its reform, as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years.")
In Zelaya defense, there are many governments throughout the Americas that support his position saying the vote merely an "opinion" poll, and therefore not illegal. I was swayed by this.
As an outsider, it is difficult to know who is telling the truth.
Then I came across the following CNN report:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?=NIZ7OUfqEoE&feature=related
(Of note is the question about his family. It starts at 2:40 and continues until 3:07)
In it, the reporter, Karl Penhaul who directly interviewed Zelaya says Zelaya was not with his family at the time of the coup, that:
"..he [Zelaya] was alone in the Presidential palace planning for today's refererendum which was aimed at extending his four year mandate."
Is the reporter demonstrating Zelaya's clear violation of Article 239? Or is this the case of a reporter embellishing a story?
Is there raw fotage of Penhaul or CNN Spanish's interview of Zelaya? I don't speak spanish, but would be intereted in someone who does. In these interviews, has Zelaya admitted violating Article 239? Can Penhaul be re-interviewed and asked about these questions? Is he now a material witness if Zelaya goes to trial? Would the Supreme Court of Hondoras include this as additional evidence or are they satisfied with their decision?
I truly hope for a peaceful solution to this crisis--but it looks like international politics is making this even more difficult. So far there has been very little violence, but the current government is making themselves look bad by suspending the Rights of the Citizens.
ok I'll try again....haven't yet successfully posted a comment and dying to do so.
Oh my gosh. I think I might have actually gotten a comment through. It was only a test comment but i got the "your comment will be visible after approval" message. So on with the REAL comment.
I am a US citizen, have visited Honduras and sponsor two children through Children International. I sent an email to CI requesting them to change their website to remove the word "coup" the day after Zelaya's removal. (They did.) I then got a mysterious unsolicited email from a "grassroots organization" in Boston requesting my financial support for their efforts to reinstate Zelaya. I was so mad. So I fired off an email to the site explaining the situation as I saw it.
I got a lovely, page-long email "explaining" the situation in Honduras, complete with comments such as "Zelaya is out for the poor" and "The Rich are the ones behind this "coup." It was full of misinformation.
After a day of cooling off, fact-finding and reading, I sent another email to this person. I said that I thought, despite his PhD, he was wrong. I then proceeded to tell him why. I have not gotten a response as of yet.
I had to cancel my August trip to Honduras and I am praying for all of you there. I am so angry with CNN and the news coverage here. I have emailed all of them and also the news sites. I have made comments on all the inews sites and don't know what else to do. God Bless Honduras. Keep strong. There are many here trying to change things.
Hello everybody, I am a naturalized US citizen but was born in Honduras and I have been living in Honduras for the past 2 years, I love the US and I love Honduras and I just want to say thanks to all the people who are trying to help spread the word about the misinformation beeing transmited in CNN and other news channels. I though we were not enough people in Honduras to try to make the world understand what CNN is saying is not true but I am so happy to read that even people who do not have ties to our country can see thru the spiderweb of lies and are trying to help us, thank you so very much from the people in Honduras. I have pictures, I will send them to you soon.
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