Guaymuras Accord tonight?
Honduran President Roberto MichelettiPresident Roberto Micheletti made an announcement at 10 pm. He has agreed to Zelaya's demand that the National Congress decide the issue of Zelaya's restitution, but that that decision must be reviewed by the Supreme Court. He has authorized his team to sign the Guaymuras Accord tonight if Zelaya agrees to it.
He indicated that the ball is in Zelaya's court, "No more rhetoric! No more political games! No more excuses!"
We are supposed to hear more soon.
Update 11:16: They both signed the accord. Victor Rico made the announcement and is thanking Thomas Shannon.
Thomas Shannon is congratulating the negotiators and everyone else, including José Insulza and Oscar Arias. Phht. Word is that he made serious threats against Honduras to force the agreement.
Update 11:30: Vilma Morales spoke for the Micheletti team, nothing new there.
I've been waiting for a press conference from the other side, nothing yet.
Update 11:52: From my inside source, 47 congressmen will vote no (40 Liberal, 1 UD, 2 PINU, and 4 DC) 26 congressmen will vote yes (22 Liberals and 4 UD), and presidential candidate Pepe Lobo is asking the Nacionalistas to abstain.
Worst news of all: supposedly Thomas Shannon has been pressuring the congressmen to vote for the restoration of Zelay or else! The exact words were that "Shannon scared the living hell out of everyone here including Micheletti." Yeah, remember the press conference? "We're just here to help. We aren't going to intervene. We'll respect any decision that the Hondurans make." Yeah, right. Now they are even threatening elected Honduran officials that they won't recognize elections unless they vote yes. I'm sure there must be economic threats as well.
Update 1:30 a.m.: See the comment on this article from Lce_hn. He or she saw the Zelaya press conference and wrote that, incredibly, Victor Meza said that there are still four points to be agreed upon. This Reuters Latin America report says that Zelaya will sign the agreement on Friday. (I'm not including a google translation as it is a bad translation.) Finally, I found a Proceso Digital report of Victor Meza's press conference. [google translation]
Hillary has already announced her joy at the agreement so I hope that Zelaya sticks to his word that he will sign the agreement and will respect the decision of the congress.
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LG, lets wait what Hugo Chavez says
I feel so sad to be a US citizen they came and pushed what Hugo wanted all the time now they say if Mel does not come back they willnot respect nothing thats the mels people.
picture this:
Z back to sq1, guarded and surrounded by FFAA, DGIC,DEI,FONAC,TSC ...no Asamblea Constituyente, who is he going to call?
1 UD Congressman will vote NO?
Is UD the communist party that so strongly supports Zelaya? Why would they vote no?
LG, to see the zelayistas conference, its on channel 36. Victor Meza said, what was signed so far was the approval of 8 clauses of 12, being number 8 the most sensitive one, the return of Mel. For the agreement to be valid the twelve clauses have to be approved in consensus. Tomorrow they are discussing the last four, which has to do with the timetable of the agreement, the ethics committee, which by the way it will consist of four individuals two international and two honduran the international individuals will be choosed by OAS and the two hondurans one by Micheletti and the other by Mel.
These individuals most be squeaky clean, of known honorability and ethics. So the agreement as it is said in the news hasn´t being really signed,just and agreement that Congress will decide. Which was a null point and thanks to the presence of Thomas Shannon they came to an agreement.
Also Micheletti and Zelaya has to agree about the Gabinete de la reconciliacion. And the fourth I don´t rememeber.
By the way anyone saw the heavy artillery conference, Thomas Shannon was not looking at the cameras in his speech, he looked like one of the sopranos characters. Evil!
I was hoping that someone asked Thomas Shannon after the press conference, " Mr Shannon, now that the agreement has been signed by both team zelaya and team micheletti, What are you going to do?
His answer? "I´m going to Brazil as ambassador of the USA!!
Sorry LG, this is making me crazy!!
Good nite gente.
Is it possible that Michaletti is selling out? Can congress delay discussing the agreement until after the election?
A bit of good news:
Library of Congress stands by report on Honduras coup (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/1307368.html)
Oh, and thx for clarifying the origin of my name!!!!
An international truth commission?
Two from the OAS, one from Mel's camp and two from Honduras? The deck is already stacked 3 to 2!
Anon in La Ceiba
Isn't this the same Congress that voted something like 125 - 5 to throw the bum out?
On the other hand it's the same Congress that took millions of limps in bribes to pass ALBA.
Here come more Venezuelan planes.
I was kicked out of a press conference the other day because I was an intern and not staff that was put on by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and other members of the House Foreign Affairs Commitee. Before they kicked me out, I got a lion's share of the press releases her web site has been doing, as well as what they would be talking about at the press conference.
From what I can remember (as all of it is sitting at work and I'm at home), they were calling for a full investigation of State and the Obama administration's role in coercing the US Embassy in Tegucigalpa to help Zelaya. The investigation, if it takes off, is supposed to be headed by the Government Accountability Office. Also, GAO will be seeing if the US Air Force was coerced into help bringing Zelaya back into the country, and if the Brazilian Embassy was notified ahead of time by State or other members of the US government about Zelaya's return and a probable course of action to take (ie: let him go there and declare asylum). Finally, it looks at State's interactions with the Zelaya administration pre-June. Long story short, it looks like everything you have written about here (from an insider's prospective) found its way to the House Foreign Affairs Committee, and they're ticked!
I read a Yahoo! News article written about the announcement of the Guaymuras Accord. I almost vomited when I saw the US State Rep's response. Proud? If I were in the State Department, I would be sickened that this happened. Furthermore, I feel absolutely disgusted, as Omar does, to be a US citizen. Honduras defends its constitution and this is how we thank them. Ugh!
LCE do you think Mel knows anyone squeaky clean?
I'm sure the pressure is great...probably threatening any dissenters with a new 'Ruby Ridge'...
LG,
Here's the youtube video of Micheletti's speech
http://www.youtube.com/v/QrEWJfrDWP4&hl=es&fs
and an article in Spanish...
http://www.libertaddigital.com/mundo/fin-de-crisis-en-honduras-el-parlamento-decidira-si-restituye-a-zelaya-1276374696/
I wish you well :) Melek
”Obama's foreign policy is the most transparent thing about his administration. President Obama never doubts himself or, apparently, our enemies. He saves all his doubts for the American people and our former friends around the globe.” ~ K.A. Shiver
What a let down, is this all been for nothing? It seems the business people could not hold the line, Many civilizations have been brought down by greed and power, who's next?
*sad*
I sincerely hope that you can fight to the very very end, no matter what, and hopefully win at the end.
The absolute best of luck to Honduras, all of free Honduras!
Michelettis spokesperson said that Shannon was very but very respectful last night, and that Hugo Llorens even used the correct phrase su exelencia for the first time.
Odysseus, was that publicly or privately? Shannon referred to Zelaya as President and Micheletti as Mr.
I got word Hugo apologized to President Micheletti and justified himself as acting under orders from Washington. WWII SS officers said the same at Nuremberg. mara fakas
Why is Lobo abstaining, that is extremely stupid!
Do you honestly think that the Congress vote has not already been fixed? When Zelaya agrees to the Congress vote, when Clinton and Insulza come out with statements that assume that Zelaya's re-instatement is a mere formality and when many countries in the world are "all of a sudden" ready to send election observers, I would say that the vote is already in Zelaya's pocket.
And what do you think was the pressure that Shannon applied? I believe that, as usual when the USA wants something and can't get its own way, it applied its trump card - the threat of oil sanctions.
So don't blame Micheletti - in the face of this threat, there was nothing else he could do.
The ugly face of US democracy shines through once again.
Of course, this is all IMHO.
Today I am proud that I am NOT an American citizen.
Pete, you do have a way with words. Who were you addressing? Rather than a challenge, perhaps starting your comment with "I think that..." or "In my opinion,...." might be better received!
I guess the overall winner of the contest "Echale tierra a tu tierra" its a three way tie, Zelaya-Rodas-Martinez. The polls are closed, and it seems that Shannon will be giving the trophies to the winners. Hillary is in Pakistan and can`t make it.
to honduras94... no pun intended :)
I'm going to bed and watch me a marathon of Battlestar Galactica...
Thanks LG for keeping us informed, and to the US readers, don`t worry
there were no surprises, as a country we always get frak`d, although wasn`t expecting it from the US (gov).
LG,
I was addressing the readers of this blog. And it was not a challenge - it was an opinion, as clearly stated.
Whether it is "better received" or not really isn't the point.
La Gringa -
I wonder why Pepe would be encouraging his supporters to abstain? That doesn't seem logical at all; he needs some the elections to be internationally apporved should he win.
Also, in the past he has specifically said he is in favor of restoration and today he said "We are willing to be cooperative in Congress with the agreement of the negotiators. The best decision for Honduras will be taken."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jAkMGKIUDg_ngUiZboxQbYj5_DPwD9BLGVKO1
Checked the Brazilian media, pretty much perfunctory reporting, and mostly on the internal world and international sections, not the front page. Still in the magazines you had Veja referring to the Presidente Deposto and the Presidente Interino, which is a better description than our shameless State Department. Epoca printed what it said were the major points of the agreement, #3 being that there would be no attempted change of the Constitution, and #4 that the upcoming elections would be held and recognized. Epoca's artical was captioned "Congress will decide return of Zelaya" and had a disgusting photo of Mel hugging Shannon.
The Brazilian povo have pretty much been against their government's intervention, period. And who can blame them with Lula comparing himself to Chavez and his redistribution of wealth.
It will be interesting to see if this gets any play on the US nightly news channels this evening.
For the leftist jingoists in the US State Department, they get to dance their victory jig in this proxy "war" where the good of Honduras and its people meant nothing.
Anon. 4.
To Pete:
It is simply the latest good reason for one to be glad he (she) is not a United States citizen.
Karateca:
Micheletti does not NEED to sell out. The trump card was played by little Tommy Shannon: U. S. - OEA invasion. In my opinion at least.
As to Lobo:
He is typical of his party, historically a gangster, country-selling (vende-patria) institution. He studied in Russia {did not graduate there]; I do not trust him. I have him recorded as stating that he would keep Honduras in the ALBA.
The Nationalists, for what they judged was party/political advantage, did nothing to help resolve the crisis, hoping that the Liberals would self-destruct for the election. This is going to backfire. As always, their party before their country. Dr. Lopez Contreras was the only noteworthy one of them who put Honduras first.
The best man since 1950 (honrado y probo) who was president was a Nationalist -- Don Julio Lozano Diaz, in my opinion. A shame that he chose that party.
Both parties need to disappear finally, for the fundamental good of Honduras.
For Don Godo:
Threatened more with a Honduras-size WACO, Texas, than with a Ruby Ridge.
Hasta la Victoria Siempre !
El Che Vive <3
pfft. you guys are really pissed. I see cards stacked more against Zelaya then ever.
Here comes the reds! Here comes the reds! WERE ALLS GONNAS DIES!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have been here for many years, cabron.
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